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2024 Subaru SUV Comparison (Forester, Outback, and Crosstrek).
Welcome back guys!
Here’s a walk around review of the 2024 Subaru Forester (Limited), 2024 Subaru Outback (Limited), and 2024 Subaru Crosstrek (Limited). All of these have a CVT, two have the 2.5 Boxer engine, and one had the 2.4 Turbo Boxer.
What are your thoughts?
Comment below 👇
Dealer link below 👇
www.twinfalls-subaru.com/new-vehicles/
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The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
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The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
All NEW 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser | Walk Around and Exterior Review
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Welcome back guys! I’ve seldomly done review videos like this, compared to legit in depth reviews and driving impressions with 0-60s. But since I didn’t have access to this SUV today and it’s been sold I figured some of you might appreciate my thoughts and if nothing else I had fun checking it out! Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎
ALL NEW 2024 Ford Ranger TURBO | POV Driving Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my short driving review of the all new 2024 Ford Ranger Lariat 4x4 with the 2.3 turbo eco boost engine. But this truck is also available as an XL, XLT, and Raptor with a 2.7 or 3.0 twin turbo engine. Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Dealer link below… www.goodeford.com/
2024 C8 Corvette | POV Driving Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my review of a 2024 Chevrolet Corvette 2LT, it may not be the Zo6 or E-Ray, but dang does it rip! It’s amazing what a “Base” model Corvette can do these days! What are your thoughts? Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Vehicle link below… www.twinfalls-chevy.com/inventory/used-2024-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-rwd-2d-coupe-1g1yb2d47r5104628/
ALL NEW 2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 V8 | POV Driving Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my full review of the 2024 Refreshed Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392, and dang is it pretty stout! It had a Dana 44, front and rear locker, and most importantly a 392 (6.4L Hemi / scat pack engine). And it does not disappoint. What are your thoughts? Comment below! 👇 Vehicle link below… www.goodemazda.com/used/Jeep/2024-Jeep-Wrangler-4af3a175ac1814799a7dc72f4e3ab520.htm
Lifted 2019-2025 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid POV Review | Subaru Forester Wilderness Fighter.
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Welcome back guys! Here’s a POV quick review and 0-60 of a slightly lifted and AT tyre’d Toyota RAV4 Hybrid! And I’m wondering what you think, is this as good or as capable as a Subaru Forester Wilderness? Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Vehicle link below… www.twinfalls-subaru.com/inventory/used-2019-toyota-rav4-hybrid-xle-awd-sport-utility-jtmrwrfv0kd032035/
ALL NEW 2024 Ford Ranger | Honest Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my review of the all new 2024 Ford Ranger Lariat 4x4 with the 2.3 turbo eco boost engine. But this truck is also available as an XL, XLT, and Raptor with a 2.7 or 3.0 twin turbo engine. Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Dealer link below… www.goodeford.com/ 00:00 Intro 00:38 Walk Around and Specs 04:58 Driver Side Interior 09:48 Bed and Cargo Area 10:32 Passen...
The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
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I traveled to more than 4 Dealerships to show you guys what current inventory and easily identifiable discounts look like. Not only are interest rates super high right now but MSRPs have gotten out of control. Thankfully many of the dealers are finally coming back down to Earth on their pricing below MSRP. Thoughts? 2024 Toyota 2024 Ford F150 2024 Subaru 2024 Silverado #trucks #Toyota #Ford #Ch...
2024 Subaru WRX | Honest Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my review of the 2024 Subaru WRX Base in WR Blue with the 6 speed manual! Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😁 Dealer link below 👇 www.twinfalls-subaru.com/? 00:00 Intro 00:52 Walk Around and Specs 06:28 Driver Side Interior 10:10 Trunk and Cargo Area 10:56 Passenger Side Interior 11:41 Engine 12:51 Initial Driving Impressions 15:30 0-60 on GPS 16:13 Final Though...
2024 Ford Mustang GT (5.0) | Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my review of the ALL NEW 2024 Ford Mustang GT with the 5.0L Coyote V8 and 10 speed auto. Not a bad powertrain! Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! Dealer link below 👇 www.goodemotor.com/ 00:00 Intro 00:50 Walk Around and Specs 09:36 Driver Side Interior 15:49 Trunk and Cargo Area 17:06 Passenger Side Interior 17:59 Engine 19:22 Initial Driving Impressions 22:23 0-...
2024* GMC Canyon Denali | POV Review and 0-60 on GPS.
Переглядів 8 тис.21 день тому
Welcome back guys! Here’s a quick review video of the new GMC Canyon Denali! It’s a pretty sweet mid sized 4x4 truck! But is it better than the 2024 Toyota Tacoma or Ford Ranger?…🤔 Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! Dealer link below… www.twinfalls-chevy.com/?
2024 Chevy Blazer RS | POV Review and 0-60!
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my quick review of the 2024 Chevrolet Blazer RS with a 308HP 3.6 V6, 9 speed auto, and AWD! Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Vehicle link below… www.twinfalls-chevy.com/inventory/new-2024-chevrolet-blazer-rs-all-wheel-drive-suv-3gnkbkrs6rs130235/
Lifted 2021-2024 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost | POV Review and 0-60
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Welcome back guys! Here’s just a POV review video filmed in 2024 of this current gen 2022 F-150 with the 3.5 twin turbo ecoboost! Slight f150 refresh for this new 2024 model year, but really it’s not that much different. Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 Vehicle link below… www.twinfalls-subaru.com/inventory/used-2022-ford-f-150-xlt-4wd-crew-cab-pickup-1ftfw1e87nkd09599/
1 Year UPDATE on my 2023 Mazda MX-5 Miata
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Welcome back guys! Here’s my past due One Year Update on my 2023 Mazda MX-5 Miata Club! Like, comment, subscribe, and take care! 😎 00:00 Intro 00:40 Modifications 03:20 Issues 03:59 Tires 04:45 Cost of Ownership 06:20 Regrets 07:25 Future Plans/Mods 09:51 One of my favorite aspects of the Car 10:24 Final Thoughts
The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
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The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
2024 C8 Corvette | Honest Review and 0-60!
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2024 C8 Corvette | Honest Review and 0-60!
ALL NEW 2024 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost | Review and 0-60
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ALL NEW 2024 Ford F-150 3.5 Ecoboost | Review and 0-60
2025 TOYOTA 4Runner | Brought to you By Doug Demuro, Throttle House, Driving Sports, Donut, n’Toyota
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2025 TOYOTA 4Runner | Brought to you By Doug Demuro, Throttle House, Driving Sports, Donut, n’Toyota
2024 Mazda CX-30 Driving Impressions in SNOW
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2024 Mazda CX-30 Driving Impressions in SNOW
2024 Silverado LT Driving Impressions in Snow
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2024 Silverado LT Driving Impressions in Snow
Here’s what MPG you can Expect from a Turbo Subaru Outback Wilderness!
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Here’s what MPG you can Expect from a Turbo Subaru Outback Wilderness!
This NEW Supercharged F-150 is the 2024 Raptor R's Biggest Threat | Review and 0-60
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This NEW Supercharged F-150 is the 2024 Raptor R's Biggest Threat | Review and 0-60
This is Why you NEED to Change your Cars Filters… | Subaru Outback Wilderness Turbo
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This is Why you NEED to Change your Cars Filters… | Subaru Outback Wilderness Turbo
DON’T Buy the 2025 Toyota 4Runner… Buy This Instead.
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DON’T Buy the 2025 Toyota 4Runner… Buy This Instead.
2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 | Honest Review and 0-60
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2024 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 392 | Honest Review and 0-60
2024 Subaru Outback Driving Impressions in Snow
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2024 Subaru Outback Driving Impressions in Snow
Subaru Outback 1/4 MILLION Mile Review.
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Subaru Outback 1/4 MILLION Mile Review.
The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
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The Truck Market Finally COLLAPSED. And Buyers are DONE Overpaying!
2024* Toyota GR86 | Honest Review and 0-60
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2024* Toyota GR86 | Honest Review and 0-60

КОМЕНТАРІ

  • @rc846
    @rc846 10 хвилин тому

    What was a $20.00 bill In now a $100.00 bill

  • @timhanley4396
    @timhanley4396 15 хвилин тому

    Watching your videos makes me want a new car

  • @billcooper2798
    @billcooper2798 34 хвилини тому

    I'm sorry there is no way I would pay that kind of money for these vehicles! And that new Land Cruiser is already priced out of reach for the average person !! And that's the base model !! The greed these people are showing is ridiculous!! And I say let them set right were they are!!

  • @edwardfitzpatrick9363
    @edwardfitzpatrick9363 54 хвилини тому

    I remember when you could buy a new truck for a little over 20k.

  • @jeffreyjeziorski1480
    @jeffreyjeziorski1480 Годину тому

    No spare tire??? Pass.

  • @user-gp1ht6my5x
    @user-gp1ht6my5x Годину тому

    Enjoyed the Presentation. Thanks

  • @franklinbittner4683
    @franklinbittner4683 Годину тому

    Can’t believe you keep calling it a dodge ram ….

  • @tikitak1155
    @tikitak1155 2 години тому

    Man, my dealership took $4,300 off MSRP on the 2024 Tundra Limited, TRD Off Road, long bed, and I'm not STILL not budging. Out the door pricing came in at just above $65,800 with taxes and fees. Had they have 1.99% for 72 months, I would have taken the deal, but right now, I'll keep waiting. More options will hit the market in fall, and I'll bet that they'll take at least another $2,000 off by then, and financing will likely be around 1.99% or 0% for 48 months.

  • @BamaPatriot61
    @BamaPatriot61 2 години тому

    Prices definitely need to drop by a lot, but I can’t see them falling back to where they were before the lockdowns and supply chain issues. Inflation has destroyed the value of the dollar which isn’t surprising after the Fed dumped a bunch of money into the system while the government was throwing cash out like Monopoly money. Salaries didn’t keep up at a time where we lost a huge percentage of our buying power and all of this was avoidable and they knew it which means all of this pain we feel was intentional. Remember the words of Klaus Schwab where he proclaimed we will own nothing and be happy. If you don’t know who that is, do a search for him and his agenda 2030. It’s not conspiracy theory when they write it down and speak it. Judging from the prices of almost everything mixed with salaries, I’d say they are easing us into this plan, but I hope and pray things will turn around.

  • @Vin-pd7mh
    @Vin-pd7mh 2 години тому

    Let the INVENTORY ROT ON THE LOT 😈

  • @nonactive3654
    @nonactive3654 3 години тому

    No, it still hasnt collapsed enough.

  • @jaehohwang8125
    @jaehohwang8125 4 години тому

    Toyota dealer you showed is a ripoff. They are selling new as used to add Toyota Care package as part of the sale/CPO. Its higher margin thing with forced added value as they call it. I know that trick very very well.

  • @suremaxtwo
    @suremaxtwo 6 годин тому

    Never buying a new car again! Ever!

  • @betitos11
    @betitos11 8 годин тому

    They're selling them as used to Jack up the interest rates and get a kickback from the banks. Rates are higher on used vehicles 🤬🤬

  • @jrighteous1984
    @jrighteous1984 9 годин тому

    HOLD ! HOLD THE LINE !!! LET THEM SIT AND THE PRICE WILL KEEP DROPPING ! WE HAVE THE POWER ! ....I really believe that folks ..

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 8 годин тому

      Yes 👆 that’s basically the message. Supply and demand. These prices are insane and over valued on many vehicles. Only buy from ethical dealerships who sell good products from the manufacturers who are in touch with reality and who their buyer basis actually is.

  • @TomL3grandsons
    @TomL3grandsons 11 годин тому

    The used Toyotas are holding value because not many people trust the new engines

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 10 годин тому

      That’s for sure. 5th gen 4Runners hold their value better than Gold, lol. 😂

  • @hirprimate941
    @hirprimate941 13 годин тому

    A shocking real world example of this is the cost of windowless cargo vans which quietly keep the country working in countless ways. In late 2019 my employer bought me a new 2019 Ford Transit 250. I looked up the invoice and the cost out the door with all taxes, titles and fees was $34900. That included a cargo shelving package that I picked out and they installed! I priced up a 2024 exact equivalent and it came out to $58.800! A little over 68% increase in less than five years! Obviously my employer was able to bargain a good price on my van but they tell me no one will do that now it’s sticker or more plus they charge extra labor to install shelving. This is really hurting small businesses that rely on these vans to get work done.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 12 годин тому

      That is a great and shocking example! Completely ridiculous. I’m unfamiliar with the transit vans but wouldn’t be surprised if that’s also still part of the same generation as your 2019.

  • @americanhero1234
    @americanhero1234 14 годин тому

    65k is to much for a pickup truck🤣🤣🤣

  • @generector8583
    @generector8583 14 годин тому

    Subaru Impreza new Base Model VIN: STOCK: MSRP 22,995 marked up 2,549 Destination 518 - Cash discount 940.52 4% + wv tax. 1,390.26 6% Check Amt. 23,962.74 from bank Title $15, fees Dealership profit: $3,052 two recalls, electrical, drivetrain 2024

  • @jonathanhuynh880
    @jonathanhuynh880 14 годин тому

    So expensive

  • @josephhawkins-ur4iw
    @josephhawkins-ur4iw 16 годин тому

    Let me just say 😌 If all these car and truck companies can build a camry for $33.000 dollars, make it last 300,000 miles.an others in respect to their auto's for 30 to 40 thousand dollars. They all can make these trucks the same. Their gouging our eyes out. An getting filthy rich on stupid people and rich people with money. An the unfortunate one's 😕... if people would stop buying at those prices. You could go out and buy trucks for the same prices. Except obviously, the dullies...or bigger. The auto makers got greedy, and now they are starting to pay for their greed.its about time. I hope to see the auto makers fall to their knees. And get the prices back down to the freaking earth. I used to buy new ones, but now I want any more ... unless trucks go back down to 35 to 40 thousand...guess I'll drive my old trucks. STOP PAYING STUPID PRICES.!!! AN GET A DEAL...😊

  • @capt.america2737
    @capt.america2737 16 годин тому

    At this rate next year a truck will be over $120,000 😂😂😂😂

  • @doonie5396
    @doonie5396 16 годин тому

    Those hairy knuckles...

  • @MrTierhog774
    @MrTierhog774 16 годин тому

    Tried buying one in Florida. Wouldnt budge below 50k , low-balled my trade and with 841 CS best bank could deliver was 6.0% plus...all this at a Toyota dealer. Went with another manufacturer, got 0.9%, a $7500 rebate, and beat the Toyota offer of my old Toyota Tundra by 3k!

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 14 годин тому

      I’m glad you didn’t settle and found a much better deal somewhere else!

  • @user-rk8zc7xn6k
    @user-rk8zc7xn6k 16 годин тому

    they can keep it. my trucks are around twenty + Years old / these companies and their bull shit. keep the money on your pocket.

  • @Kir_jbg
    @Kir_jbg 17 годин тому

    I’m glad I reviewed this video before thinking about getting it. Was upset I couldn’t find a classic or modable gm from the 90s or 2000s I like for a good price made me think about this but I don’t want a fwd. it’s a shame they made these cars or any ls4 fwd, just stupid.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 11 годин тому

      Some people have actually started converting these cars and the earlier year W-Body cars into a RWX set up with the drive shaft going down a slightly modified exhaust tunnel. It’s pretty cool and something I never thought I’d get to see back when I owned a W-Body.

  • @Roosternurse
    @Roosternurse 17 годин тому

    Crooks,,I would run like the devil from that Toyota stealership!

  • @user-ds2gy1bb2p
    @user-ds2gy1bb2p 18 годин тому

    I personally think that this ridiculous pricing is done on purpose. The people that run everything don’t want us driving and using resources. This is speculation of course. I would like to know how dealerships are staying in business. Where are they getting their money?

  • @HuntingKing922
    @HuntingKing922 18 годин тому

    Everything you’ve shown is JUNK

  • @lorenschwiderski
    @lorenschwiderski 18 годин тому

    It seems like pricewise there is not a great deal of a difference between Outback, Forester and CrossTrek. Hard to choose in other ways as well. I wonder if the Outback, in real world driving takes a larger hit than a CrossTrek 2.5, in regard to gas mileage and 0-60. Is the CrossTrek closer to the test figures when compared to Outback?

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 17 годин тому

      The Crosstrek definitely probably scores closer to its rated figures than the larger and heavier Outback and Forester. I actually have a side by side comparison of the 3 that I’ll likely make public tomorrow morning. It’s not a detailed review like I’ve done many on my channel but an overall comparison.

  • @08Budweiser
    @08Budweiser 18 годин тому

    gas door does lock when car locked and not in range of key

  • @CuzZtv1
    @CuzZtv1 18 годин тому

    i want one. i had an 2001 in highschool, but now at 31, i want to get a 2007 SS and put some 22'' irocs on it and idgaf what anyone says

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 17 годин тому

      That’s awesome! Also having owned a W body car in high school I have my own sentimental attachment to these cars lol. I’ve also posted a video of an Impala and showed some crazy sleeper footage added into that review.

    • @CuzZtv1
      @CuzZtv1 17 годин тому

      @@AutomotiveAnonymous208 I’ll check that out 😎

  • @labcoattheater6161
    @labcoattheater6161 19 годин тому

    Great video and came at a perfect time for us. We are just torn on which one to get. We love the Outback but we need to tow a small camper 2500 lbs and want the option to tow a bit more later if needed. Yes, the Outback can tow up to 3500 lbs but I am not crazy about adding a hitch to a unibody. So we are likely going with the 4Runner (body on frame). We do sometimes end up in messy situations in northern Arizona and we think this will pull our small camper through those times better. You can see this camper on our UA-cam page. Again, thank you this really helped us decide.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 17 годин тому

      I’m also so glad you found my video and I’m happy it could be helpful to you guys! Best of luck in whatever you decide. 4R are awesome and although it will be dragged down and get horrendous MPG while towing, you can rest assured knowing you’ll make up for its expense when it’s time to eventually sell it. 🙂

  • @povertyspec9651
    @povertyspec9651 19 годин тому

    Overpriced Not reliable Expensive to maintain High interest rates High insurance costs Banks not lending if you don't have perfect credit

  • @williammorris3815
    @williammorris3815 19 годин тому

    If people are wondering what is happening…new cars are not selling. When new cars are moving like mad dealers make a little on each vehicle and due to the numbers a dealership makes good profit. When vehicles are not moving, the dealership tries to make their numbers from a handful of units moving…not rocket science. They can’t drop prices.

  • @eightyduece9670
    @eightyduece9670 19 годин тому

    Meanwhile I'm zipping around in my 2002 Z71 4x4 in the real world. lol

  • @cristianstriblea792
    @cristianstriblea792 19 годин тому

    Dealership are wrecking the auto industry with their greed ….. soon all the car manufacturers will follow Tesla example and axe 🪓 the middle man (dealership will go extinct)

  • @ericpigg2689
    @ericpigg2689 20 годин тому

    All these dealerships are doing are removing the arbitrary "market adjustments" that cropped up during Covid. This market adjustments were just further price gouging on top of the already ridiculous MSRP. No one is getting a "deal" until we are seeing 40% off the window stickers.

  • @douglasstewart5499
    @douglasstewart5499 20 годин тому

    Crooks at this stealership!

  • @Phi.D.888
    @Phi.D.888 20 годин тому

    If you think the truck market is dead, wait until the gasoline price is going up to $7-$10 per gallon

  • @tinmanslickgreasy999
    @tinmanslickgreasy999 20 годин тому

    We may have inflation here in america and its all over the world BUT we have a serious GREEDFLATION problem in america that has taken root and does not seem to be going away. Greed is running rampant and its not just car dealers its almost everything now the inflation we have at this point is coming from GREED! There must be just enough buyers out there that still buy this stuff to keep the dealers and manufacturers confident enough to keep the prices where they are. Ever since 2019 manufacturers have just pushed it to the moon...... this all will collapse on itself.

  • @dannylewandowski2822
    @dannylewandowski2822 21 годину тому

    Mavericks should be $20000 like when they first started to sell them.

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 20 годин тому

      Absolutely! Especially when you consider the fact that they’re unibody crossover based and with a pretty simple interior.

  • @danielhunter1396
    @danielhunter1396 21 годину тому

    123k for a jeep😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

  • @mikecheckmike
    @mikecheckmike 21 годину тому

    Cyber truck is literally the ugliest vehicle ever made. Makes the Pontiac Aztec look like a gem.

  • @dannylewandowski2822
    @dannylewandowski2822 21 годину тому

    Not one single access cab.

  • @dannylewandowski2822
    @dannylewandowski2822 21 годину тому

    Americans will own nothing eventually.

  • @stryker120ski4
    @stryker120ski4 21 годину тому

    looks like the chvey store that was there closed, i have not been in twin if 2 years,

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 17 годин тому

      It actually appears to be doing pretty well and moved to a larger and more nice location! I occasionally do review videos with their vehicles. 🙂

  • @stryker120ski4
    @stryker120ski4 21 годину тому

    that toyota dealer was good at one time i have bought from that dealer ship, when they start to add ADMs and bs fees this dealer has lost its way. there should be no adms on any car, truck or suv there is no shortage of cars in the usa

    • @AutomotiveAnonymous208
      @AutomotiveAnonymous208 17 годин тому

      That’s sad to hear. Definitely something shady going on there these days based off of assumptions that can be made about all their “used 2024s” and ADMs.

  • @JQ3GT
    @JQ3GT 21 годину тому

    These prices are 😅😅😅😅!!!

  • @overbuiltautomotive1299
    @overbuiltautomotive1299 21 годину тому

    Toyota has lost their minds 4 banger turbo in ever thing inline six is neeeded and and new real dollar